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[Daily Discussion] Wednesday, March 29, 2017

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Why I believe we're on the cusp of the 3rd great Bitcoin bubble

We've recovered from the last crash
You might think it's a bit early (based on the time frame for the last recovery), but things are looking a lot different than in 2011. I would suggest its because the last bubble popped prematurely due to Mt. Gox's failure of a trading engine.
Interest in buying Bitcoins has gone up to its highest point since the last bubble.
There's a similar spike in general interest. Partly helped along by the Silk Road news.
The network is being used at the same rate as during the last bubble.
The Bitcoin ATM story (see below) is causing Bitcoin to trend in Canada on Google (was #1 for a bit). The $27 story (see below) will almost certainly cause a large spike worldwide in Google trends once they're updated up to yesterday.
Lots and lots of new businesses now accept Bitcoins
One legitimate criticism of Bitcoin last year was the lack of places to spend them. We basically just had Alpaca Socks, Reddit and Wordpress, we've grown a lot since then!
Charities and others are taking donations
The first Bitcoin I ever spent was to donate to Wikileaks. More and more places are setting up Bitcoin donation buttons, because why not?
The $27 story is going massively viral
I think the attention this story is getting took a lot of us by surprise. We're thinking "of course if you bought Bitcoins in 2009 you're rich" and it didn't make much of a splash. But to the rest of the world it's a very novel and interesting story.
The first Bitcoin ATM has been installed
Easier way for people acquire Bitcoins with cash. Lots of free publicity. More machines are on their way and will generate more and more news.
Institutional money is coming
Afraid with the price at $200 that it will be hard to find enough moms and pops to keep money coming in faster than miners are selling? Don't be, there are individuals out there with a net worth higher than the entire Bitcoin ecosystem.
Interesting new developments
Cool things that didn't exist before the last bubble (as far as I remember).
Governments are explicitly saying it's not illegal
More and more governments are either saying Bitcoins are legitimate currency, or releasing guidelines for exchanges to comply with anti-money-laundering laws.
New generation of exchanges
Mt. Gox's terrible trading engine was a huge factor in the last crash. They couldn't keep up with all the new interest.
This time around there are more exchanges in more countries, and not a single point of liquidity.
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It's bits

"Ok, I'll send you some bitcoin. How much was it?" "17 milli-bits" "Ok sent." "Hold up, you only sent me 17 micro-bits." "Did i? Hang on, i thought micro bits was the m?" "No the m is for milli-B-T-C, micro is mu-B-T-C." "mu?" "That little greek letter that looks like a u. u-B-T-C." "I don't have the letter mu on this phone." "Just use a u." "So i need to send you 17 milli-bitcoins?" "Well you've sent me 17 microbitcoins, so another 16,983." "So i need to send you 16,983 micro-" "Milli-, millii-bitcoins" "Yes, right. m is for milli not micro." "Right. It's easy, its just like in science class..." "I haven't been in a science class for 25 years....milli-bitcoin..." "1 thousanth of a bitcoin" "so..." "zero dot zero zero zero one bitcoins"
While SI units are great for people well versed in them, there is a very good reason people aren't asking for 100 micro dollars in change. The average person is not going to be confident that the prefix they are using is the correct one, people WILL send 1000x more or less than intended if we go down this road, and these mistakes will happen frequently.
Bitcoin needs one sub-unit max.
I am an advocate for the 'bit'. This is why:
The incongruity of using scientific notation with money.
Human psychology is powerful. Of the 6 or 7 people i have talked to about bitcoin, everyone of their initial reactions was along the lines of, "Wow, sounds interesting. Hang on, that's really expensive. That's for 1 bitcoin!? I couldn't afford that." Now even after you explain to them, hey you can buy 0.01 bitcoins, they are still in their initial mental frame, and the problem still remains: 0.01 bitcoin, is not a bitcoin.
What people need to understand is that the current solution of using mBTC or micro-bitcoin, does nothing to alleviate this psychologically. "Here's your micro bitcoins" "micro..bitcoins? I want bitcoins."
People are not going to be satisfied with the transaction because they are not getting what they want, they want what they heard about on the news, they want bitcoins.
Using bits DOES alleviate this problem.
Imagine someone completely unfamiliar with bitcoin, hearing about it for the first time. What is their reaction to these two sentences:
"I'm using a digital currency called bitcoins. I just bought 100 bits."
"I'm using a digital currency called bitcoins. I just bought 100 micro-bitcoins"
("Micro-bitcoins? Why didn't you buy some whole bitcoins? Do they suck balls? etc.")
Micro doesn't exactly have positive connotations when talking about an asset. There is congruence when asking to buy bitcoins and receiving bits. It's a natural progression, you start off with bitcoins, and if you chip little bits off of the bitcoins you get 'bits'. But they are one and the same. One is not lesser. It's ok little bitcoin. You are not micro.
We need to lose the sci-prefixes. No one wants your micro anything. People want cents and pennies, not micro dollars. We aren't in a lecture theatre, we're trying to buy class-A drugs, guns and morally questionable porn (i kid, i kid!).
The average person doesn't remember how many decimal places the conversion is to this or that unit, and i don't want a test in long division every time i try to buy some alpaca socks.
Almost as bad is it isn't even practical to use them in speech. They are too many syllables and they are similar sounding. You think people wont confuse microbitcoin and millibitcoin? One thousand five hundred micro-bitcoin is a linguistic nightmare.
Look i know scientific subunits are easy for you, i'm not saying it's Einstein hard, i'm saying it isn't practical for day to day use in a monetary system.
What is practical is a single conversion:
one bitcoin == 1 000 000 bits
That's it. Look at that. One conversion. And the main unit is a simple concatenation of its subunit 'bit' + 'coin'.
The only peice of information you need to know is that there are 1m bits in a bitcoin. Thats it. No letters. No conversions.
1mBTC = 1 000 bits 1uBTC = 1 bit
"But the numbers are too big!"
No they aren't. Humans used Italian Lira. Humans use Japanese Yen. With thousands exchanging hands for small purchases. It's easier for people to intuitively grasp 10,000 than 0.0001.
And if you are really shitting your pants over the zeros you can use K bits. still only 2 syllables, and K for 1000 is a unit that is already used when talking about money. Everyone knows $1k = $1,000 already, no extracurricular activities needed.
look at where it is on the page as a unit of measurement for 1000:
compared with m as a measure for milli- :
Confusingly m is also for 1000 in roman numerals, and even more confusing is that we already use m for million ie $1m.
It's a no brainer.
It's called bitcoin. We spend bits.
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List of successful bit-coin companies and services

The recent news about Abra made me think that only our Organization is qualified to prepare an authoritative list of bit-coin companies and services, classified according to their degree of success. Here is my first try:
Have significant demand by non-bitcoiners
Have significant demand only among bitcoin believers/holders
Do not have any demand to speak of
Any additions?
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For the people of the Ukraine, time is running out. Their banking system is collapsing. Their currency is crashing. People need food, medical aid and supplies. They may be under foreign invasion! The people of the Ukraine need us. They have been cut off from the world. Only Bitcoin can reach them.

This is fantastic. Thank you guys so much. This is what bitcoin is for. After I verify with Elizabeth I will tweet this and Facebook it as well. Thank you for your work and compassion.
Can you get one of you (preferably Elizabeth Ploshay) to tweet something? Also a signed message from one of the key holders and confirmation from Gary Kasparov/Human Rights Foundation? It doesn't have enough credibility until I see something like that. Thanks.
bitcoin in general has been anti-war. How does a post asking us to participate in a civil war make it to the top page?? Another piece of evidence that reddit and social media are controlled by click-farms and like-farms.
This is fucking idiotic. Either 1) you guys will take the Bitcoin, convert it to fiat, then give it to someone (who you have yet to specify), making it completely pointless; or 2) you will give someone Bitcoin which is completely worthless until they find an exchange to convert it into hryvnia, which make be difficult or impossible to do during an armed revolution. But hey, maybe some Ukrainian rebels wouldn't mind a trip on Virgin Galactic to leave their war-torn nation, or they can buy some alpaca socks to keep warm after their homes are destroyed.
What are people in Ukraine going to do with Bitcoin exactly? Your FAQ just says the funds will be disbursed. What are the people going to do after they receive Bitcoin?
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Bitcoin Alpaca Socks Under Attack

Bitcoin or any crytocurrency is illegal in Ecuador, in accordance with the provisions of article 94 of the Monetary and Financial Organic Code, in other words buying alpaca socks it’s against the law. For that reason and because I won’t tolerate being told what can or can't do with Bitcoins, I have launched, the store that will sell alpaca products from Ecuador to the world.
I won’t stop there, the profits from the exchange will be spent in helping small business trade with the currency, if you would like to learn more about our infinitive visit our site news at and help us show the government we will sell alpaca socks anywhere we want.
"Help us make Ecuador great again."
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[megapost] NYANdeas

We've come a long ways and I'm at a point where I've decided I'm going to really pursue this with everything I've got in terms of energy and devotion. I've got a prior commitment hanging over my head towards the end of this month, but once I resolve that, I'm planning on spending a couple months really digging into NYAN and seeing what I can do. So far we've just chipped away at the edges, but already we've seen some pretty impressive results. Just a brief recap of our successes first and then I'll talk about my ideas.
We've gone from 1-3 satoshi to 10-30 satoshi prices. Not bad. We've got two new block explorers up in response to the previous one going down. We've got an irc channel and active community members both here and there. And we've got me, the crazy bastard who's locked up 25% of the available supply and is planning to do everything he can to build up NYAN to its proper greatness, and got tipnyan going and did a major giveaway with it. Oh, and we survived a dump of ~10% of the available supply quite comfortably. Probably other stuff I'm forgetting about right now.
So, what next? Well, a lot of stuff. This is just a huge dump of ideas for discussion and inspiration. It's not necessarily ordered, although I'll try to have it go roughly from simplest to most complex. These are by no means promises or guarantees. This is just stuff I think would be cool.
Some of this isn't a "implement this", it's more of a blog post prompt or general concept.
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Open Letter to Forbes Peter Cohan

Sent to: [email protected]
I've read your article on Forbes about Bitcoin:
I think the article could be better, and I'll outline the reasons below.
dropped from $17.50 to “pennies”
One exchange (out of several) experienced technical difficulties (related to being hacked) and suspended trading for a week. Other exchanges kept trading and held the exchange value between 14$-17$. It currently trades at 16.8$.
used to buy Alpaca wool socks and illegal drugs
There is a wide variety of goods&services that's growing daily that you can pay for with Bitcoins. Among them are PC-hardware, Coffee in NYC, IT Consulting, Programming, Webdesign, Web-Hosting and many more.
Comparision to other "e-currencies" not thought trough
have been many attempts at creating online currencies — including Digicash, Flooz, and Beenz.
It isn't exactly relevant to compare Bitcoin to these currencies.
Beenz and Flooz were value substitutes entirely controlled by a single party. They could only be exchanged by involving that party. Inevitably these parties fell on hard times at some point or another, and had to cease operating, at which point exchange became impossible. That makes them a bad comparision to Bitcoin which is guaranteed not to fall prey to central control and floundering businesses that'd make their exchange impossible.
Digicash may have been somewhat similar to Bitcoin, but there are two key differences. Digicash may have been anonymous and somewhat decentralized in exchange, yet the minting of new coins and the client software itself were in the control of a single party. Inevitably when Digicash failed (to run a sound business) Digicash (the currency) became impossible to trade.
Therefore the comparision of Bitcoin with these failed "e-currencies" is only insofar of interest as it provides ample evidence of what exactly Bitcoin did better, namely two things:
Small change is irrelevant to the discussion of Bitcoin
A historical look at currencies over the last 500 years reveals an interesting insight — a key limiting factor to adopting currencies has been the ability to make small change.
The smallest unit of bitcoins is 0.00000001 btc. ( At currently traded (16.8$/btc) that would be 0.000000168$. Bitcoin payments can be specified down to that smallest unit, and there does not have to be any "change". Therefore both the numeration and the precision of payment argument is not relevant.
Marginal costs and benefits misconception
But they never caught on because their marginal costs to consumers and merchants exceeded their marginal benefits.
In order to understand the motivation behind bitcoin, it's important to understand the limitations (or costs) of CC and Paypal payment processors.
The Paypal issues
The CC in general issues
*What Bitcoin does better
In Summary
Repeated misleading allusions as to questionable legality
Is It Legal? as a way to pay anonymously for illegal drugs sold on Silk Road – is the one that has been referred to the U.S. Attorney General as a violation of money laundering statutes. Mann notes that Bitcoin’s ultimate ambition well might be illegal After all, he points out, there are federal statutes that make it illegal to produce a separate currency.
Two main thrusts are presented by you as to the legality of Bitcoins. First you question businesses that use them of being in violation of money laundering laws. Second you allude to the legality of alternative currencies. Both of these things are not issues for the following reasons:
Consumers and Merchants pickup
Unless consumers and merchants can be persuaded that adopting it will make them better off, it’s likely to go the way of other online currencies.
This is an astute observation and I applaud it for that.
However as a system Bitcoins do not depend (financially) on that pickup, and the speculative part of the Bitcoin economy will be able to live quite a while entirely without it. That being said, there is some pickup of bitcoin in genuine e-commerce and other fields.
Bitcoin has many desirable qualities, from an organizational, economic and technical point of view. Your article is not a very good representation of Bitcoin as it is, nor of what it can be, or what it's core issues really are.
I'd invite you to write a retraction and correction in your next article and consult a Bitcoin specialist for review and input. If against all "odds" Bitcoin should prove to be more successful then you thought, think of it as collateral for your journalistic integrity.
You can read comments about this open letter on the reddit post about it:
Kind Regards, Florian Bösch
TL;DR Peter Cohan has a poor grasp of bitcoins and presents a number of fallacious arguments that are not relevant.
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Wow! Many thoughts. Such scholar.

tl; dr: We aren't taking enough advantage of the community to make doge, the coin available to all. I argue that the only reason many are still here, even now, is for the meme, not the coin.
Problem-> big players with lots of money mine doge, sell 4 bitcoin. who has doge? Not you and me. this is bad
Every person that has a computer has dedicated or integrated gpu. I propose moving doge back to GPU usage.
Please read extended if you wish to decry me or bring up a reasonable discussion.
(rambling) Ever since ASICs came into play, I gave up mining on my GPU, sold it, and went to my old ati 4850 card. I just wasn't excited any more. I wasn't involved. This is one of my attempts at spurring a solution to a primary problem- not only is the 51% a problem, but for the future of the coin, who has doge is the real problem.
I'm not the only one that's felt this way, i'm sure of it. It's only because of DOGE that i even learned about bitcoin/cryptocurrency. The question of "how do i mine?" in bitcoin usually gets "if you're not using an asic, don't even try" - ltc and doge were different. Not any more. Our hashrate has fallen as well. It makes no sense to get into doge right now. (/rambling)
"But doge is cheap! Just buy some on an exchange!" That doesn't solve our problem of a potential 51% attack from a motivated thief, and it only creates yet another barrier to entry. Not everyone wants to go onto an exchange or purchase an asic for a coin that could be screwed over at any moment. ESPECIALLY when if they sign up for an exchange they can just buy bitcoin which can be used for so many more things.
Doge's hash rate and value per mined coin has been in the dumps for a long time. Litecoin miners etc, have abandoned their GPUS and are selling them in droves on ebay for cheap. With reasonable amount of investment, a larger portion of the community can mine.
If we do this right, I think we can bring back doge, as a COMMUNITY. Gpu's are cheap again, you can find many high-tier gpu's on ebay for less than msrp (significantly less) (a 6 GB 7990 is 400 bucks. it used to be over 800).
Solution: move to Gpu-heavy algorithm and get community able to mine the coin again. Value will go up as we trade with each other. Screw exchanges and exchange rates. That's not the only way to benefit from mining the coin. If I could trade with someone all of my doge for alpaca socks in the amounts that I can afford, I'mma buy alpaca socks with it, gosh darn it.
I ALSO recommend with that, extending the remaining halvenings, and considering increasing per-block payout, so community members who will keep and actively trade the doge, will get into it. It's so cheap that I think we have a while until we'd have to worry about GPU farms mining doge.
Promises: I promise that if we get GPUs relevant again or some way to give the community MORE COIN than ever before (like every individual subscriber to this sub holding 100,000 doge), we will have more individually spread out coin than ever before, meaning more people have doge, meaning doge stores can make more money. You have to disseminate the coin for it to be used. If only ASICs can do it then we're limiting the number of people that can get into it via mining, however small.
I hope you understand what I'm trying to get at here.
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My (Wordy) Bitcoin Story

Warning: wall of text, read only if you have nothing better to do.
I was originally introduced to Bitcoin in late 2010. Wrapping my head around the whole thing took some time and some reading, but I immediately became infatuated with it. At the time, I think the most exciting thing you could buy was alpaca socks. I remember seeing it around $0.50/BTC. I didn't have a whole lot of disposable income, so investing wasn't really an option, but I got a little bit of BTC from the original Bitcoin faucet and a fun pyramid scheme site (anyone remember that FXnet site?).
Flash forward... I watched as BTC hit parity with the dollar. I strongly believed (still do) in the principle of decentralized currency, and felt like I should support it. I PayPal'd $100 to someone in the IRC channel in exchange for 100 BTC. I'd like to have invested more, but that was all I really could do at the time. I figured I could lose it all, but even if that happened, it was capitalizing a good cause, and maybe the next e-currency would be successful. (In hindsight, should have sold a kidney for money to buy-in with.)
I experimented with trading on Mt. Gox, but only broke even. I didn't know what I was doing so I decided to just "buy and hold" and get in for the long run with my 100 BTC. I quit logging on to Mt. Gox and just watched the price. Not long afterwards, that nicely animated "What Is Bitcoin?" video came out, and Silk Road started getting some press.
BTC has just climbed and climbed. The more it climbs, the more excited I get. Over the years, I've watched my $100 buy-in become worth $1,000, then $10,000. And recently, as we all know, BTC hit $1,000. My $100 buy-in became worth $100,000. That is an absolutely inconceivable amount of money to me. I hate to use the term "life changing" in regards to money, but at this point $100k is.
I recently logged into my Mt. Gox account. Not to trade or anything, but just to look at it (still kind of in shock that I own a $100k asset). What I saw surprised me. I didn't have 100 BTC, I had $100 USD. Frantically, I went to my order history. Then I saw it. When I made that decision, years ago, not to trade anymore, I still had an open sell order. It executed a few days later. These last couple of years I've watched the prices, thinking I owned Bitcoin, but I had almost no stake in it at all.
I haven't been able to think or read about Bitcoin for the last week or so. The thought of it just makes me sick to my stomach. I can handle making the wrong buy/sell choice, but the fact that I lost $100,000 to a simple mistake just really makes me angry at myself.
Not much I can do about it now though. I'd like to have my 100 BTC back of course, but it's hindsight at this point. I found another wallet of mine and it had a bit less than one BTC in it, so I'll start there.
This is my first day back from completely avoiding the BTC community. Just needed to vent. Thanks.
TL;DR: Bought 100 BTC at $1 several years ago, grew to $100,000. Checked my balance and discovered I had accidentally sold them all in 2011.
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11-18 21:12 - '[quote] No. What I'm saying, once again: / If one needs to buy bitcoins and has US dollars to spend, the choices are many. By going [here], for instance, one is offered 990 willing sellers, many of whom don't requi...' by /u/BitcoinistanRising removed from /r/Bitcoin within 321-326min

you're basically saying that until everyone else jumps on board it's not worth the interest.
No. What I'm saying, once again:
If one needs to buy bitcoins and has US dollars to spend, the choices are many. By going [here]1 , for instance, one is offered 990 willing sellers, many of whom don't require your banking details and may be met in the meatspace -- a hipster cafe, a roadside McDonald's, a shithole motel room, or even a poorly-lit alleyway reeking of piss, behind a dumpster.
Or one may get bored with spy vs. spy bullshit, bite the bullet, and share one's highly private and very personal info with an actual exchange, the sort grownups use, and buy enough BTC for one's jenkem fix alpaca socks.
But if one absolutely, positively needs a jenkem fix alpaca socks to get one's BTC within a finite timeframe like, let's say a month? Don't go [here]2 . Because there's no BTC there. You'll have a better chance of scoring BTC at your local pig station.
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For your caroling pleasure this holiday season: "The 12 Days of Bitmas" (lyrics)

I was inspired by Matt Miller's (mattmiller1973) "12 Days of Bitcoin" series on Bloomberg TV to write lyrics for the "12 Days of Bit-Mas." (I know. Time well spent, right?) Enjoy.
On the twelfth day of Bit-mas
Satoshi sent to me:
Twelve moon rockets launching
Eleven whales a dumping
Ten trolls a trolling
Nine exchanges goxing
Eight bankers freaking
Seven ASICs hashing
Six mixers mixing
Four crying bears
Three black swans
Two alpaca socks
And a bitcoin in a Merkle tree.
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Some thoughts on the economy of Bitcoin. BTC is fractional reserve and the US Gov has more control over it than you think.

I've given a lot of thought to the arguments and analysis surrounding Bitcoin and I'd like to know what you think about my take on it, and one of my concerns. Please pardon the clickbait-y title, I promise I'm not asking this to push a pro or anti-BTC agenda.
Part 1 theorizes that properties similar to "fractional reserve" are shared by most currencies including cryptocurrencies that aren't centrally managed.
Part 2 presents a question about liquidity and US government market-distortion power.
Part 1: Thoughts on the economic model of currency
So first, many of the arguments for BTC and against fiat focus on monetary ecosystem aspects that BTC and fiat actually seem to share. "Fractional banking" and "no intrinsic value/off the gold standard" are often criticisms of fiat money. As many here have already observed: Crypto and fiat both primarily derive their value based on the willingness of others to accept it in exchange. Neither carries any intrinsic utility value. USD black markets in Argentina and Venezuela (and possibly Cuba) are good examples of how governments can exercise enormous power over citizens through law, monetary supply manipulation aka money printing, official exchange rates and capital controls, but cannot prevent independent price discovery or market valuation of their currencies above their actual worth in exchange. The informal acceptance of Canadian Tire Money by Canadians and the acceptance of casino chips by Las Vegas cabbies is an example of how items other than currency (though to be fair, they are dollar-denominated and exchangeable) have organically come to be accepted as money substitutes despite lack of government decree.
As for fractional reserve and debt-based supply, those are just mechanisms - scalar multipliers - that allow a currency's admins to change the money supply. Fiat supply is controlled by board of admins. BTC has a fixed time schedule by which the supply is algorithmically controlled, but that doesn't mean its valuation in the market doesn't behave like a fiat currency.
The immediate value of the currency/stock unit is what it can buy right now. This is what most people focus on: how many dollars is cabbage corp stock worth, or how many Monopolycoins does it take to buy a cheeseburger. There's the supply: outstanding stock shares or monopolycoins issued. There's the amount of resources that the monetary supply can theoretically purchase - the market cap, or issued_monopoly_coins/cheeseburger_market_price. There's the amount of resources that the monetary supply can actually be exchanged for, or "access": the net worth of cabbage corp, or the actual number of cheeseburgers that can be made by the restaurant.
The supply of a stock or currency will always account for more resources than it is actually based on. The difference between the two, I'm told, is what controls liquidity. This is not necessarily bad. In the case of stocks it allows expected growth and investment returns to be priced in. In the case of currency, ideally it allows the amount and velocity of circulating currency to match the amount and velocity of circulating goods. Both USD and BTC share this property - can I call this ratio "fractional reserve liquidity"?
Please correct me if this theory is incorrect. I would like to postulate that the liquidity of currency and the currency price of goods reflects the amount of circulating currency, not the actual supply. Both goods and services derive demand from utility and scarcity, and scarcity refers to available units, not units in existence. That is, if 1000 units of Monopolycoin circulate in an market economy where 100 cheeseburgers are being traded (and nothing else), the cheeseburger will be 10 coins. If the circulating money supply increases to 2000 coins, the cheeseburger will soon increase to 20 coins. However, if 5000 Monopolycoins are were issued and being circulated around in some other country, cheeseburger prices will not reflect those coins until they begin to circulate among the hungry diners.
Part 2: The liquidity concern
A much better explanation of this issue is made by Stanislav here:
I have no disagreement per se withe fact that early miners, coin thieves, other large holders and possibly "Satoshi" have ownership of a large part of the Bitcoin economy.
Sure, a lot of people are jealous of those who struck it rich on Bitcoin, and a lot of people believe it's unfair for someone to obtain value without productively creating it. A sentiment I agree with, though in the case of Satoshi, I would say that Satoshi definitely deserves to gain millions from the brilliant creation of the theory and the well thought out software (things like choosing the longest chain by total difficulty and not the block height, network time based on 5 peer median excluding outliers past 70 minutes, safe mode, show a really mature product), and the early adopters who evangelized the system with things like faucets also deserve to benefit.
My concern is when you add in risky liquidity. There would be no unease if there were enough assets, meaning alpaca socks, US dollars, burgers and pizzas being transacted, that a large market action would not disrupt the Bitcoin economy. If there are 100,000 Monopolycoins minted and US $50,000 being traded around supporting a $1:1coin price, then it doesn't matter so much if 20k of those were stolen and 20k were pre-mined and hoarded by the creator, because a very healthy 50% reserve means that a 20k coin cashout won't take out too much capital. It's the fear of putting dollars, burgers, and development work into the ecosystem and having most of it sucked out by a few actors that has people screaming "ponzi".
Now, it's not Satoshi that I'm worried about - whoever Satoshi is would be smart enough to slowly and gradually sell off whatever coins they have to avoid affecting the price.
According to this article, the US FBI has the world's largest Bitcoin wallet:
About 1%, according to this list:
Keep in mind that while that $94 million number represents the worth of 1% of the outstanding coins, $94 million is a much higher percentage of the actual worth of the Bitcoin economy.
To disrupt Bitcoin, the U.S. government doesn't need to build supercomputers and run a 51% attack, or even try to attack it all. There's a good chance the FBI will sell the entire lot of seized coins at once, or within a short period. It's not like they care about market timing. Whether or not the Bitcoin economy is resilient to such an event depends on the amount of capital and confidence invested into the system at that time.
I wonder:
How much value (primarily foreign exchange reserves, some physical goods) is inside the Bitcoin economy? How much value (iPhones, oil exports, foreign reserves and so on) are in the U.S. Dollar economy? How do the exchangeable assets match up to the total market valuations for both currencies?
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Bitcoin Body Remix - Bitcoin Song Official Audio (Loud Luxury, Bitcoin Remix) Bistum Mainz - YouTube

We already knew that Bitcoin and alpacas had a special “connection” since we published this article, where we suggested that you spend your digital currency buying super comfy alpaca socks. However, there’s much more to this story, since alpacas are being considered the unofficial mascot of the cryptocurrency world.. If you never saw an alpaca, we can tell you it looks a lot like a llama ... He used that transaction in a subsequent article comparing using Bitcoin as a medium of exchange versus the coincidence of wants that a barter exchange suffers. Shortly after receiving the media mentions, most of the merchant's product offerings had sold out for the remainder of the season. Bitcoin's former lead developer Gavin Andresen tweeted that he had purchased wool socks with bitcoins ... Bitcoin is a distributed, worldwide, decentralized digital money. Bitcoins are issued and managed without any central authority whatsoever: there is no government, company, or bank in charge of Bitcoin. You might be interested in Bitcoin if you like cryptography, distributed peer-to-peer systems, or economics. A large percentage of Bitcoin enthusiasts are libertarians, though people of all ... Grass Hill Alpacas sold alpaca products for bitcoin, including alpaca socks. In 2011, ... Bitomat, the first Polish Bitcoin exchange which went online in April 2011, swiftly lost 17,000 bitcoins ... Es hat sogar ein Lied mit dem Titel "Alpaca Socks", aka "The Bitcoin Song" inspiriert. "Vor kurzem wurden Alpaka-Socken in der" Bitcoin Kid "Interview von Stefan Thomas von Ripple während der Mai 2013 Bitcoin Konferenz in San Jose, CA. Sie können das Video hier ansehen. Nach der Bitcoin-Wiki-Seite hat sich die Bitcoin-Community auf die alpaka-Bitcoin-Verbindung verriegelt. Nachdem Bernard ...

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Bitcoin Body Remix - Bitcoin Song Official Audio (Loud Luxury, Bitcoin Remix)

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